[smallmancontrov]

Ah, so now the bar has fallen to "people aren't literally starving (yet)." Amazing.

[parineum]

Yes, "People aren't literally starving" is incredible progress for humanity. Progress which has coincided with the incredible wealth creation (not transfer, those things are different) of modern times.

Would you prefer to go back to a time were people were literally starving?

[smallmancontrov]

This argument, better articulated by Thomas Hobbes, would be right at home in 1651 were it was busy justifying the economic mismanagement of that time as well.

[parineum]

And what argument are you making? That starving is good?

[smallmancontrov]

No, that you should advance your thinking past the 17th century.

[ChadNauseam]

No, the bar has risen to "people aren't literally starving (anymore)." Amazing.

[wat10000]

Pretty sure that's a rise of the bar, not a fall.