[wolrah]

> I'd almost rather have no AI whatsoever and have storage 1/10 the price of pre-AI times.

Almost? ALMOST!?!?!

If you handed me a button that would make it like LLMs had never existed I'd be slamming that button so hard Sam Altman's clothes would spin around.

Return memory and storage prices to normal, undo the sloppification of ~everything, remove all these annoying "features" that are so useful they have to force them upon people, and make scammers actually have to put in a slight bit of effort, all at the "cost" of real human developers, artists, writers, etc. getting paid for their work....

If this is a hard decision for you, you are the problem.

[sgarland]

Same. Every time I think about this, I come back to the fact that I was excellent at my job before AI, and even enjoyed aspects of it, so I would be fine if tomorrow it all blew up.

[snapplebobapple]

I don't really agree with the specifics but I can identify with the emotion. To me the problem with AI isn't AI, it's that investors are idiots and put hundreds of billions of dollars into AI companies that have near zero chance of being profitable enough to pay them back and those companies took that money and blew up computer parts supply chains that are vital to the rest of human existence. If we didn't have this massive build out that has no chance of repaying itself and instead had a build out that only doubled ram/gpu/nvme prices we would be far better off. As it stands, we're going to have a ton of gear that will be of questionable utility once any of the disruptors get their 100X+ per watt improved/different hardware going and to get that hardware we broke everything else. This ai stuff will also likely plateau and have the openweights models and opensource tooling catch up and at that point the companies are basically GPU REITS with diminishing demand as the stuff ages out and the disruptor's gear gets built for much better performance per watt. They've made it really ugly for us now and it will get really ugly for them in the midterm future imo. Not a good outcome for anyone.

[ChiperSoft]

Same, I'd smash it like it was offering me a million dollars. I cannot think of a single positive thing that has come out of the AI boom. It has been a net negative for all of society.

[Kon5ole]

Oh come on! I'll take a few years of expensive RAM in order for humanity to get wide access to something near as makes no difference to the Star Trek Ship computer.

Which is 100% what this has felt like to work with, all spring and summer.

So we're in a slop phase, it'll pass. The first few years of youtube gave no hints that we'd get stuff like Veritasium.

Ignore the slop and use the tools to create something you never thought you could do. That's what it's for!

[catdog]

Same here, the usefulness of the slop machines is quite limited compared to the downsides.

[alex43578]

Hey everyone, stop progress! Wolrah has decided that November 29, 2022 is as far as things should go. Because everyone knows before that day, there were no scams, every artist lived lavishly from commissions, and software was flawless and without any extraneous features.

[jraph]

That's quite uncharitable. What are you trying to achieve here?

They (probably) don't want to stop progress (especially unqualified like this) in general. They'd like a world where LLMs didn't come to exist.

And whether LLMs are progress at all remains to be proven.

[techpression]

There's a difference between standing in the rain and being hit by a tsunami, even if it's both just water.