[neya]

Large corporations like Microsoft under constant pressure from investors are slapping AI onto every single product offering just so they can claim they're an AI company now. Just like what Adobe did. So yeah, that didn't end well and probably this wouldn't either. Consumers are getting tired of these half-assed AI integrations and there will be a breaking point soon.

[adamddev1]

I'm done. Moving to Forgejo. It's wonderful and everything works better.

Seriously like everything is instant when you click around, and CI with a runner works beautifully. (The documentation for setting up the runner could be a tad clearer but otherwise everything was so painless.)

[alex_suzuki]

Self-hosted, or are you using something managed? I’ve held off switching from Gitlab for now as everything is setup and runs ok, but they’re pushing their AI hard into every corner. Not a lot of good managed options around (yet), especially in Europe. Codey (https://www.codey.ch/) is pretty expensive and doesn’t offer runners out of the box.

[adamddev1]

Self-hosted. It runs great on a tiny VPS with other services. But I did have to get a cheaper Hetzner server (5 Euros-ish for 4GB RAM) to run the runner.

Forgejo feels like a refreshing blast from the past. No intrusive AI cramming. The Web Interface is snappy and responsive, not waiting for constant loaders and spinners. It takes almost no resources to run.

[neya]

Wow, I never heard of Forgejo before. Going to give it a shot. Thanks!

[adamddev1]

It's a fork of Gitea. I am very happy with it.

[sneak]

Microsoft is a publicly traded company. Which investors are causing them to shit up GitHub with AI features nobody wants? In which venues?

[inigyou]

The imaginary pressure of investors. When you actually ask investors if they care about most of the things CEOs think investors will care about, they don't.

[ThunderSizzle]

If I'm picking a stock to buy (in the "retail" market, it's primarily based on a balance of EPS, P/E ratio, and a low(er) amount of debt.

My P/E filter filters out the likes of Nvidia, Amazon, etc, whereas my debt filter ensures the smaller cap companies won't be swallowed by their debt like many businesses are.

Who knows if I'm smart or an idiot.

[27183]

The same thing happens much lower down the ladder: when you ask customers if they care about most of the things managers (or engineers) think customers care about, they don't.

[inigyou]

The same thing is how a law about "if you hack someone we might arrest you" ends up causing internet providers to shut down a connection upon a single errant packet.

I had a $400/month server turned off because of a single failed TCP connection to the wrong address which ended up on an abuse database. If they'd gone to a court they would've been laughed out of it, but the provider's upstream's upstream's upstream wants to avoid court (even though that wouldn't happen), and so every step in that chain gets more paranoid about upsetting the previous link until then a typo in an address gets your server turned off until you reply to your server host.

[neya]

They need to justify to the markets that their Azure investments were worth it. The whole company is built around Azure. The AI justification is just a storefront for it. Every engineer who worked on it will tell you it's a pack of cards waiting to crash. All the issues with Github, etc. are just side effects. Otherwise, if they write off Azure, their stock price will take a dip as they just admitted to burning cash on a lost cause - which it actually is (my personal opinion).

[crote]

It's their $80B+ investment in building AI infrastructure.

If Microsoft can't meaningfully integrate AI into their own products and make profit off of selling it to end users, why should anyone assume that third parties can? By extension: if nobody can make money off of AI products, what's the point of building $80B in AI infrastructure - did they just set a giant pile of cash on fire?

Microsoft has to ship AI features, or write off its massive investments as essentially worthless. Remove the crappy AI feature from Github, and you pop the bubble.

[yieldcrv]

Agreed but I think enterprise AI offerings are pretty impressive, investors and consumers aren’t really aware, employees aren’t able to trade

The revenue is there and also impressive, and supplanting consumer and seat based revenue

The market is still shedding SaaS multiples, which I think is accurate, but break out the revenue in those quarterly reports and there is a huge growth story, from real efficiencies