[pontussw]

There we maybe need some regulation that the system should be working, and the manufacturers of the cars should be forced to recall and fix the system if it doesn’t work!

The solution to bad implementation can’t be to just throw our hands in the air and say that Kia produces bad cars so therefore we cannot introduce safety regulation

[lazide]

Or, hear me out, just have a person drive and not try to micromanage them constantly with a shitty AI system?

[pontussw]

You mean the status quo?

> Each year road crashes generate about 120,000 fatalities and 2.4 million injuries in the European region of the World Health Organization. Road traffic injuries are the leading cause of death among adolescents and young adults.

Whatever it is we are doing today, it is not working.

[lazide]

And from having used these system and having them almost cause crashes? And with the increase in traffic fatalities roughly corresponding with their increased adoption?

They clearly are not helping.

[pontussw]

Traffic fatalities and accidents have been going down, constantly. There is no increase in fatalities from adoption of these systems, at least not in the EU.

EU statistics show a continuous downward trend over the last 25+ years with pretty much the only thing sticking out being the Covid lockdowns. And all thanks to safety regulations!

The fact is hundreds of thousands of people are alive today thanks to traffic safety improvements, and probably millions have been spared from a life of suffering with major injuries.

[lazide]

Fatalities are going up in the US.

And having used those systems, they are definitely not actual improvements.

Other things may be, but not these systems. So stop lumping them in together.

[pontussw]

Okay, but then I don’t understand your comment in the context of ”Every new car sold in the European Union must include ..” - the European Union has very clearly been introducing successful regulations since our fatalities and injuries keep going down all the time.

I have a car with a full suite of safety systems, the automatic braking for example have helped me avoid 2 serious accidents where other drivers blew straight through yield signs right in front of me.

And in my Toyota, I have never ever been negatively affected by any safety system, I also of course test drove it to make sure that they haven’t implemented the regulations in the worst way possible.. which I would suggest that everyone does with their next car. Shitty implementations of the regulations definitely do exist, but manufacturers would make sh*t cars whether these existed or not..

And I have been rear ended by a tiktok-watcher, so I have very good reason to believe (at least hope) that this will be yet another success. At least it’s extremely hard for it to get worse than the state on the road today, where every other driver is staring at their phone..

[HeyLaughingBoy]

So, the fix to one bad regulation is another one?

[pontussw]

We can also do nothing, continue to have hundreds of thousands killed every year and millions receive life changing injuries. I think that’s a terrible idea, though, since we have been able to (in the EU at least) cut road deaths massively over the last 25 years. So I think continuing a successful strategy is what we should do.