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by hunterpayne 21 days ago
"So, calling English the global lingua franca is in my opinion rather based on a selection bias on specific countries."

In software, if you don't speak English, you don't really exist. Same for pilots and some other industries. Spanish programmers will need to learn English even for jobs in Spain. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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graemep 21 days ago
Other big industries. Finance and banking switches to English the moment you deal with anything international. Academic publications and conferences in many fields are heavily tilted towards English. You have more specialist textbooks in English than in any other language in many fields.
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aleph_minus_one 21 days ago
> In software, if you don't speak English, you don't really exist. Same for pilots and some other industries. Spanish programmers will need to learn English even for jobs in Spain. I have no idea what you are talking about.

I know from programmers from Russia that in this country, you can pretty much do software development without knowing any English, Russian suffices (to the surprise of programmers from other countries). This is also why it cannot taken for granted that a programmer who comes from Russia knows English (at least more than minimal, shallow knowledge from school).

I heard similar things about programmers in China.

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throw-the-towel 21 days ago
Can confirm. Many a time my colleagues tried to write some comments in English, and the result was so broken I wished they hadn't even tried.
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hunterpayne 21 days ago
Dude, software itself is written in English, not just English but it is most often (but not always) encoded in a character set that is English specific (can't even do French). The docs for every single platform, API and language are in English. You can get translations for some stuff and auto-translate the rest. But you can't even file a bug without English. The people you know probably don't write software, they are probably using computers to scam people and deploy software written by others to aid in that.
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throw-the-towel 21 days ago
Yes the keywords are in English, but that does not mean much. You can not understand them and just use them as magic incantations. The docs often exist in translated versions, and there are also books about the same platform/language so you're not stuck with only the official docs.
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hunterpayne 21 days ago
You probably have a different definition of programmer than me. Yours seem to be someone who uses a computer.
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