[Schiendelman]

I'm 99% sure that a human made these decisions after viewing the cameras in the vehicle, not that the Waymo vehicle itself decided to contact the police and park in a parking lot with these kids.

This honestly seems pretty ideal. In a dangerous situation, the only risk is property damage - there's no driver to threaten!

[baranul]

Agree. AI is not there yet, but it seems it is coming, and that would be scary. People will one day be in the scenario, where AI judges human behavior, and then decides what type of punishments to dish out based on it.

[nisegami]

I personally think that frontier LLMs are already at the point where I trust them to be a better judge of human behavior than humans overall.

[Schiendelman]

Absolutely. But they still hallucinate, I wouldn't want them to take action themselves, just flag things for human review.

[baranul]

Even in that context, to just be constantly flagging human actions, can be argued as reflective of a dystopian future. Always being monitored, and every viewable action recorded, categorized, and flagged.

[JohnFen]

> This honestly seems pretty ideal.

I disagree. A decent response would have been for the car to simply refuse to continue the ride rather than kidnapping the ne'er-do-wells.

That Waymo did this means that the hesitations I had about using the service are amplified by a few orders of magnitude. I'm not willing to risk someone at Waymo (or, worse, a machine at Waymo) making the wrong call and kidnapping me by mistake.

[sidibe]

> A decent response would have been for the car to simply refuse to continue the ride rather than kidnapping the ne'er-do-wells.

It seems that's what exactly what they did? Except also called the police which seems the responsible thing to do when dropping drunk kids off somewhere

[4d4m]

Your view is dangerous because you don't see how this can be used to harm you.