[aenis]

If I hate anything about the EU, its the morons writing regulations for cars. My car constantly distracts me with some beeps, sometimes loud enough to be dangerous. Its surely one of the reasons far right is on the rise -- with things like 'drivers party' in some European countries winning serious votes. I spend 1-2hrs in the car each day, and I hate what those regulations did to driving.

(Worst offenders: Japanese cars since they seem to take the regulations most seriously. Least annoying: generally BMW, Volvo, though they are both getting worse each year).

[teravor]

forcing citizens to buy goods which are adversarial to them with their own money is rarely a good idea.

paradoxically, citizens expect the government to be adversarial towards them in big things (see America) but it's the 'little' things which breed true contempt.

sooner or later something will happen which will test the revealed preference of the population and everyone will suddenly discover that contempt is all that's left.

[aenis]

Yes. Absolutely yes. And I think this is why people vote for things like brexit, or really-obviously-bad-politicians. This is the only way in which they can pay back the many things the reasonable, progressive governments "gave" them. Stupid beeps included. I swear to god, I hate right wing populists, but I'd at least be inclined to vote for a party that promised to fight back those stupid systems.

[Otterly99]

Why should right wing populism be the alternative thought? Couldn't we have a decent alternative?

[aenis]

The populists are the only one raising this issue. So, yeah.

[thi2]

More than once did my lane assistant try to run me into the barrier in a construction zone. You can turn it off, however its on again after on the next start...

And all this comes with insanely high priced repairs that you cant really DIY anymore.

[jojobas]

Once on a rental car brake assist decided I'm about to hit something on a kerb in a curve on a wet highway. I was using maybe 50% tire grip to corner and sudden braking took it over 100%. 1/10 would not recommend.

Sure this sort of systems might reduce overall death toll by addressing worst suspects like drunk or distracted drivers but I'm pretty sure they makes it worse for diligent ones.

[oalae5niMiel7qu]

It specifically makes it worse for high-skill drivers. If you were the sort of driver who never uses more than 10% of your tires' grip (even if it requires slowing to absurd speeds whenever there's a curve), you wouldn't see sudden braking.

[starvar2]

Same, I have one bend near my home on which my car always pulls my steering wheel into a certain direction even though I'm perfectly driving in the middle. These "safety" systems are anything but safe, and very frustrating.

[davemp]

Totally insane that they enshrine this stuff in law without a reference design and corresponding data to validate its effectiveness.

[dpark]

Problem is do you trust the government to produce a proven reference design and test data? I have doubts that the best automotive engineers are working for any governments.

More likely any reference design would come from a private company and the regulation would end up establishing an effective monopoly. Everyone has to implement the reference design because the liability is too high for not implementing the government-blessed one.

[garbagewoman]

Maybe those who write the regulations have drivers, and don’t experience the downsides to their own regulations

[preisschild]

On the other hand, as someone living in a city with good public transit, I think cars should be regulated more. Cars make living in such a city a worse experience. They are loud and produce pollution (including EVs).