[merb]

Most b2 holders can’t even speak German. B1 is not that much better nowadays. You get tons of applications for a job where people struggle with the basics with these and as a small company with only DACH customers it’s most often not worth it

[NorthSouthNorth]

I wonder if it’s people gaming the system to get the certs or just that you have high expectations.

B2 should mean one is confident in most conversational situations. I’m at this level and have no issues conversing at all but make a lot of small mistakes.

With that being said, being in a meeting with a group of natives from the same region is brutal.

And learning that dialect is just something you can only do through exposure which you won’t get because nobody is going to hire someone who takes a few months to a year to be able to understand and speak like you (which is completely understandable).

[quadrifoliate]

> You get tons of applications for a job where people struggle with the basics with these

Any specific examples?

I'm a bit surprised because I thought that the German certifications were quite standardized. So I would expect B1 certified people to be able to speak in everyday situations.

[merb]

> Any specific examples?

well how should I do that? Basically all application data is basically protected data and needs to be deleted pretty fast.

I'm not sure if the certificates are even real in some cases. Some applications also look extremly similar, besides that they have a distance between the two applicatiants of over 200 km.

[wink]

Not the person you replied to but they mentioned DACH + customers.

As someone from Bavaria... I have several stories of coworkers who speak and understand decent German but put them on a phone or a in a room with people who speak in a thick German dialect and they will understand 10%. Functionally useless.