[joe_mamba]

> is there any country an immigrant can move to, and better their lives as well as the locals' life/economy?

Not really anymore. All the good ponds have all been fished out by now.

Housing is in short supply in every livable city in the western world and the job market is tight right now, so if you move there now, you're one, increasing labor competition for the locals, and two, rising housing prices for the locals. THe only locals happy with this arrangement are the corporation hiring you and the landlord taking your money.

The world has min-maxed itself into oblivion that it's already reached saturation point. We're way passed the balance point, everything is fucked, there's no magic place on the planet where things are nice for everyone.

[smithoc]

It's too bad that no immigrants work in construction to build more housing. If we could import lower cost laborers to build houses, that would greatly improve the housing affordability problem, but sadly, every time I go past a construction site, all I see are white guys whose great-great-great grandparents came over on the Mayflower.

[suburban_strike]

> every time I go past a construction site, all I see are white guys whose great-great-great grandparents came over on the Mayflower.

If you're going to lie to people, at least come up with more-plausible propaganda than the talking points you people came up with in the 1920s.

The only WASPs anybody's going to find on a construction site in 2026 are the ones with wings and stingers.

[joe_mamba]

Your parent was trying to be sarcastic that native WASPS are above working on construction sites and only migrants can do that.

Here in the EU where I was talking about, it's different, it's mostly European whites on construction sites, not WASPS, but intra-European migrants from balkans and eastern europe.

So here we literally gained nothing from the mass migration from africa and middle east except more housing demand instead of more skilled labor for building houses, contrary to the pro-migration propaganda.

[throw-the-towel]

This is spot on. Even if the opportunity is still better in the West than elsewhere, the trend is to the worse. It feels much more rewarding to have a less tasty slice of a growing pie, than a tastier slice that's shrinking. (And the others behave with less toxicity, to boot.)