[philodeon]

> pure ML-KEM is much more "proven" than people are discussing. The core hardness assumption dates back to 2005, and has been intensely studied (the paper introducing it got a cryptography version of a Nobel prize (Godel prize), as did several follow-up works only achievable using that hardness assumption.

The inventor of the lobotomy won a Nobel Prize in Medicine for it.

[mswphd]

huh. I really wouldn't want the Nobel Prize committee in medicine doing cryptographic work then. good thing your comment has nothing to do with cryptography then :)

[tptacek]

It's brilliant! There's no such thing as time!