[grimgrin]

I got through an entire day yesterday in massively oversized gym shorts, by simply forming a standard loop, and wrapping it _twice_. That extra friction (the second wrap) has worked for years on shoes, boots, and, very large shorts

I will not be learning a fancy knot because I have no need

[newtwentysix]

Totally absolutely agree with this. The second wrap or second turn totally solved my problem of slipping knots in shorts and shoes. Game over. Chapter closed for me.

[imglorp]

The difference is the Ian Loop is adjustable.

[jasondigitized]

What needs adjusting? My waist size is not dynamic.

[grimgrin]

they're right, we're wrong. look, if you got XXXL shorts on a medium waist and tie an _excellent_ standard knot, and you are very active for a while? those shorts are gonna loosen up for sure

this knot rules, i'm glad i went back and tried it :)

[Melatonic]

You will....knot ?