[ozlikethewizard]

I think what its trying to say is race as a defined biological categorisation doesn't really exist, at least not to the extent its been described in past. The biological variance between humans is more of spectrum than categories.

race as a cultural / social concept does exist though, and that biology certainly correlates to an extent due to geography and how human society has traditionally functioned.

I.e, the cornish are a race, falling under celtic, which originate from Iberia, but is there a modern biological difference to their surrounding English people? Are they more biologically similar to the modern people inhabiting the Iberian peninsula or those in Kent? And even then, are they really all thatthat biologically different from the modern spanish anyways?

[rsynnott]

Ah, but it gets messier than that. What's a Celt, anyway? It was traditionally believed that Celts were in some sense a single ethnic group, but the genetics don't _really_ support that, in particular for British and Irish Celts.

[simianwords]

> I think what its trying to say is race as a defined biological categorisation

Proof? What do you think the people were asked in the survey? Normal people use race in the normal way. I think white people exist. I think black people exist. Everyone knows this - I don't need any academic to prove me wrong.

And I don't think it makes me racist when some one asks me "are there different human races" and I answer "yes".

[olelele]

skin color does not equal race. The US is really weird to me in that regard.

[simianwords]

I didn't say it did? Skin colour correlates highly with race. Skin colour is a good predictor of one's self identified race.

[oezi]

Sorry, but most Europeans don't use the term anymore since the Nazis tried to impose a catastrophic societal order based on their race ideology.

White people were only white if they could show bloodlines reaching back generations. One jewish great-grandfather would make you intelligible for the Arian race. They would laugh at your notion of white vs black.