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by h1fra 22 days ago
The first sentence already contains an emdash ahah
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I speak as I think and I type and as I speak, so I do uses em-dashes. It’s a shame that it’s now a brand of low quality AI-generated content.
> I speak as I think and I type and as I speak, so I do uses em-dashes.

I'm sorry to break it to you but the sentence you just wrote doesn't contain any —s.

Not the use case for em-dashes. en-dash maybe, but they also didn't say they use en-dashes instead of hyphens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash#Em_dash

I always find it strange how many HN commenters appear to have unconsciously added "exclusively" or "without exception" to the text of the comment they're replying to.
How do you even do an em dash? I don't even thing I've got that on my keyboard
"option shift -" like so —, or if you want an en-dash, just "option -" like –. The funny bit is that I like em-dashes too as they indicate a pause or an interruption in thinking that just looks better than parenthesis, however I sometimes like to use en-dashes as well, which can be a pain since some fonts, especially monospaced ones, render exactly the same, for example in this HN edit box: - – —
> "option shift -" like so —, or if you want an en-dash, just "option -" like –.

That’s true in the US layout, but on other layouts those can be reversed.

> for example in this HN edit box: - – —

They look the same in the HN edit box because the font is monospaced, but once posted they do look different.

— Got it. I can em dash now! — — —
For Windows it's Win+Shift+"-".

I suspect it is more common to see in papers as you can type it with just "--" in LaTeX.

Correction: It is actually "---" in LaTeX and "--" only creates an en-dash.
I, at least, literally made my own keyboard layout some years ago, to be able to type all the characters I want. Got versions both for Linux and Windows (haven't had a need to use Mac yet).

It's basically an extension of US International which can type every letter in all the Latin based alphabets and most of the common punctuations, including hyphens, hyphen-minuses, en-dashes, and em-dashed.

Never found room for all the Greek letters, though.

Install/Enable support for the Compose key. Map it to Menu or some other unused key. Then press Compose and three hyphens in sequence.

I have used emdash, typed this way for many years before LLMs. I had got the habit from mimicking my journalist father's writing style.

The Compose key is useful for many other symbols «×»÷₁²♥⋄•

I'm typing from a phone and it's just a long press on the - button to get — to appear. How about if you're not foreign, how do you get æ to appear. It seems quite special to get € or ¥ to apper if all you've got is $ but why should your inability too do something hold back everyone else?
Phone keyboards usually make it easy. On desktop you can try compose and three hyphens.
I’m a bépoète™ — it’s that simple!
Hold down hyphen key
I was downvoted a few weeks ago for making this exact point. Humans can and do use em-dashes occasionally, but given that you have to go digging for the key combination, you're not using it every 3rd sentence like every AI model does.
> but given that you have to go digging for the key combination

Except you don’t. If you’re on an Apple OS, by default doing -- (two hyphens) auto-substitutes for an em-dash.

Also, the key combination isn’t even hard. Depending on the layout you’re using, it’s either ⌥- or ⌥⇧-. My fingers press that (and the appropriate combination for apostrophes too) without me having to think. Those ⌥ and ⇧ symbols (and many more) I have mapped to text snippets.

We’re using computers, these things are trivial to do and customise, you don’t have to “hunt” for anything.

Except you do, if you are an average user, i.e. not self-selected into the HN bubble.
Yeah, yeah, people say that all the time. But it's not the dash itself, it's how it's so stiff and obviously not written by a human. "No screen glow, no keyboard, no chat UI." and other bullshit.

Why should I waste time reading this link, when the "author" themselves didn't write and, probably not even read it themselves.