[danpalmer]

> It's more art than engineering

I'd say games can be either art or hype. Call of Duty is not art, really, it's hype. In the same way that no one thinks Marvel films are moving film forward, but they are hugely popular. GTA is somewhere in the middle, being mostly hype driven, but based on solid "art" in good gameplay. Indie games tend to be art over hype.

Microsoft can't do the art because it's too big, too safe, and it can't do the hype because it's not cool.

[Cthulhu_]

It can be art even if you don't consider it artistic. CoD is an example of military art. Marvel is American blockbuster art translating American comic book art to the screen. They are their own kind of artistic expression and achievement, even if you personally don't consider them art.

[account42]

This is reductionist to the point of making the term useless.

[dannyw]

Mass culture isn't the same thing as art.