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by nodja 22 days ago
> but I don't see any historical analogues.

The losers are quickly forgotten. Palm, Blackberry, AOL, MySpace. Yahoo, etc.

Software gets replaced all the time too, you even listed one and didn't realize. 15 years ago you'd call office irreplaceable, now you have to add gsuite to the mix, in 15 years there might be others. I know people that have never had office installed on their PC and use spreadsheets daily.

> It seems that enterprises will pay top dollar for service guarantees, integration, and someone they can sue.

Of course. But why pay $25 per million tokens for sonnet when you can pay $3 for GLM? Both probably running on AWS/Azure/Etc. under some third party.
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cpursley 22 days ago
Because nobody’s paying for tokens, they’re paying for monthly plans and right now those are still a better bargain.
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Certhas 22 days ago
Individuals, sure. For enterprise you can't get monthly plans. You have to pay per token.

It's a bit like saying "nobody pays for Microsoft Office". I certainly don't know anyone personally who has. Students get a free Education License and then your employer provides one for you...

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npodbielski 21 days ago
Strange. This is what they got at my company. I do not remember anyone mentioning paying for tokens. Maybe because it is fairly small, couple of hundred people in IT.
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Certhas 21 days ago
Officially it's not available anymore. But there are team plans that are not enterprise, so if you are small enough and fine with the data protection included in those maybe that is what you're working with? And I do know NGOs were offered seat based plans after they were officially not available anymore.

Also: This change came in in March so if you got your contract before then this will only bite once you renew.

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-e...

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npodbielski 21 days ago
Ah past renewal... So probably in next contract there will be a lot of thinking if we still need that.

Curious: Anybody have comparison what is the difference when company is changing to token based billing? How many times it is bigger than 200$ subscription?

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