[redrix]

The fact that these Chinese models are getting close to “Opus-grade” despite costing 6x-8x less is huge.

As the token bills start to come in, those economics will be harder to ignore (regardless of the origin of the LLM); especially as there will be many CIOs sweating over their quick and costly AI initiatives showing little ROI.

My hope is that the EU also steps up their own competition in the frontier model space so that it’s not just China v USA.

[AgentMasterRace]

they're not near opus at all, anyone using the models in a real working environment will tell you the same thing. on paper they have impressive benchmarks, but that's not realistic to actual use.

[drbscl]

I think it depends on your use case. For my personal projects (a mix of webdev & some Rust desktop apps) it's honestly very close to Opus 4.8 (which I use in my day job).

I don't feel like I'm missing out after cancelling my personal Claude subscription, whereas I used to feel that way a few months ago.

[shrinks99]

I've been using GLM 5.2 a lot this past week, it's been replacing Opus 4.8. I mostly do front-end web development and haven't noticed much of a quality difference.

Sure, "it's just frontend", but that's actual use enough for me to take it seriously.