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Oh yeah that's a good point. In that case, this Chinese hedge fund is choosing to sink billions of dollars in R&D alongside vast opportunity cost in order to create models and release them for free because umm... they're just that nice!

No wonder you're confused about DeepSeek when you have a fairly obvious explanation provided to you, and your response is "it's unrealistic to think the Chinese Communist Party is behaving like communists."

> if that were true, why don't they have just one model initiative instead of several?

Because value exists at several layers of the product hierarchy? I.e. for the exact same reason that the for-profit labs don't have just one model initiative?

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so you can't believe a private enterprise in a non democratic country can be capitalist. surely there must be state involvement because they aren't democratic and it's open weights which is definetely not just a marketing tactic because you definetely can run it on a desktop. companies like alibaba have 1 model initiative spread across several fields. so basically China for some unexplainable reason has duplicate models. (it's because they have a capitalist economy, even though the government is not democratic)

to you, it's plainly obvious that a non american, non-european company engaging in open source and releasing research means they are state owned and seek to destroy the US when this line of thinking is exactly the result of the red scare.

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It has nothing to do with democracy and I don't know why you keep injecting that. There's state involvement because it's a communist country. You should let the CCP know that their government is uninvolved and lacks effective control over the top AI labs in their country. They would be very surprised to hear this and they may reward you for your valuable information.

> to you, it's plainly obvious that a non american, non-european company engaging in open source and releasing research means they are state owned and seek to destroy the US when this line of thinking is exactly the result of the red scare.

No, that's not really my argument. You should stop raising strawmen.