[jfrbfbreudh]

I think it’s hard to appreciate the capabilities of Fable unless you’ve run into a problem that you’ve spent days trying to get Opus to solve, but couldn’t.

GPT5.5 is better than Opus 4.* at everything except frontend, but Fable is good enough that I instantly re-subscribed to the $200 plan despite knowing that it’s just short-term limited access.

[chasd00]

> ..you’ve run into a problem that you’ve spent days trying to get Opus to solve

do you have an example of this? If i can't get an agent to do something in a couple hours i do it myself.

[drusepth]

I had a 300k LOC game that needed refactored and segmented into DAG assemblies for a composable engine to reuse in a few other similar games our studio is prepping to build.

I tried holding Opus's hand over a week trying to get it done with a ton of in-depth planning and manual course-correction, but it never got it to a state where it was "done" (kept struggling to differentiate between game content specific to that game versus game systems we'd want to reuse, and how to cleanly separate systems vs content when extracting).

Fable needed a little bit of hand holding but got it done in less than a day.

[jfrbfbreudh]

Many, but I think that the model delta is only meaningfully convincing when experienced firsthand.

Here’s an example of improvement when trying to solve the label placement problem (NP-hard):

https://imgur.com/a/kCUZxPi

It’s also an example of something that I could not (and would not bother trying to) code up a solution / heuristic for.

[kittoes]

Not the OP, but I had Fable orchestrate this project.

https://github.com/ByteTerrace/Puck

It has required constant hand holding, and there was the outage to deal with, but I can't argue with the end results. A fully deterministic recursive engine within an engine framework that includes a rendering VM, emulators, custom ROMs, and an in-game editor? Insane. Sure, it's nowhere near primetime but this kind of thing was unimaginable just a year ago.

[nijave]

Debugging. Memory leak hunting, figuring out latency issues

For things where I'm not familiar with the code base, it can take days or weeks to become familiar with structure and flows.

If I can get an agent to help visualize and analyze the architecture and zero in on a subset of code, that can be a huge win.

For instance, we had some archaic "cache" that just dumped things into a static/module-level map. I tried a few different things to try to find it over the course of a few days and eventually gave Claude a Python REPL into a running process with pyrasite after some memory leaked and it traced through heap allocations and references to find the referent. It would have taken me probably 2-4+ weeks of just learning about Python heap to figure that out of my own.

[jstanley]

Here's one:

I was working on an SDF-based CAD tool. One of the things I want to be able to do is select a pair of surfaces (which are identified by a "surface id" propagated up the expression tree) and add a blend between those two surfaces (e.g. a fillet or chamfer).

Here is a video demo of how far I got by doing it myself and using o3 (I think?) to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvqdlDbkBs

The video is a bit confusing because there was some screen-recording lag so it sometimes looks like I clicked on something other than what I clicked on.

You can see that the strategy I have implemented there works most of the time but at the end it fails to apply the blend.

That strategy is to rewrite the expression tree using distributivity so that blend arguments are siblings, and then apply the blend at the union/intersection (min/max) that is their parent.

But this fails when you need conflicting pairs of blends.

The problem is: given an expression tree describing an SDF, (but where the value passed up the tree is a tuple `(distance, surface_id)` rather than just distance), and given a set of fillets of the form `(surface_id_1, surface_id_2, radius)`, produce a new expression tree which fillets all of the places where those surfaces join.

In ambiguous situations, for example the 2 surfaces come together at an edge, and then that edge runs into a 3rd surface, I don't mind how you resolve the region near the 3rd surface as long as it is intuitive and predictable for the end user.

I spent quite some days working with various agents to come up with a solution to this and still haven't managed to find one.

Maybe you could do it in a couple of hours yourself?

[throwaway314155]

Reverse engineering/decompilation of game binary (Tears of the Kingdom) using Ghidra for modding spanning Java (ghidra), C++ (mods), Python (scripting) and PowerShell (scripting for builds/deploys/etc.).

Fable succeeded in cases where Opus 4.8 consistently marked situations as walled/impossible.

[SamInTheShell]

Build a distributed system using raft groups. You will see Opus fail.

[yodsanklai]

Funny how the two top comments are contradictory. We need better than anecdotes to understand what the new models bring.

[jchanimal]

Since Fable, my legit infrastructure project has turned into the sort of thing I can do 95% on my phone. It’s reliable enough instead of doing big reviews, I’ve just been giving it smaller tasks, and dozens in parallel.

I created a skill that’s focused on getting PRs merge-ready, and now my attention is fully back where it should be, on deciding what changes will make the product better.

Our entire stack is Apache 2.0 open source, including the agent docs, so if you wanna try sitting at a higher level of abstraction, install the skill in your repo or just clone our whole project and start adding features: https://good.vibes.diy/blog/beast-mode-skill-for-claude-code

[dimitrios1]

This reads like a paid testimonial.

[jchanimal]

If by that you mean I paid a lot to learn this. But at least I typed it with my own two hands.

[dimitrios1]

I am glad! But you are indeed selling your own product here, correct?

[zsoltkacsandi]

This seems like a blog post with a link to a github repo. So I am not sure what product you are referring to.

[aerhardt]

The website linked is an utter mess. In design and performance.

[cyanydeez]

you're living in the age of AI; not AGI. Also, there's pretty much zero moderation on HN, so astroturfing is likely streaming through just as bad as reddit. It' sjust noit as obvious because it's a smaller scoped website.

[jfrbfbreudh]

I didn’t mention my case since it’s quite esoteric, but I am working on an application using the Apple RoomPlan API, which is very powerful but very limited in customizability. Opus simply couldn’t alter the scanning view for me, it would try things over and over and eventually started making up parameters and passing them hoping it would work.

Completely failed, but I knew it was possible because a competitor app does it.

Fable also failed, then added log lines (as did Opus, but Opus failed to do anything useful with them) and then reversed engineered the API, and made it work.

[neon_diogenes]

Here’s one difference I have seen. I forgot I had a multi-session audio probe running while trying to repro audio glitches, and Fable came back with: “your pops are already on tape.”

Interesting choice of words. Phrased so casually. It picked a low-tech idiom that fit the situation instead of giving some sterile technical answer. That kind of language and context awareness never happened for me with Opus, or gpt 5.5.

[tiffanyh]

My experience comparing GPT-5.5 and Fable:

GPT-5.5 is better for:

- Strategic thinking

- Long-form writing, including essays and white papers

- Image creation

- Code generation

Fable is better for:

- Using tools

- Testing code

- Working in live environments

- Making changes to existing software

- Creating polished PowerPoint and Word documents

Fable’s tool access is its biggest advantage. It's hard to describe but Fable ability to access sandbox environments with way more tooling can quickly become a superpower in now workflows.

[int_19h]

Fable is great as a "manager" model (writing specs, opening issues, doing PRs, verifying fixes) while Codex cranks out the code. Especially if you tell it to roleplay as an Eastern European software engineer and "tell it like it is without consideration for anyone's feelings".

[OrangeDelonge]

Do you need to do all these things in your dayjob or are you just doing them to comapare these models

[talon8635]

We’ve really evolved quickly into simple vectors for a magical tool that solves our problems. Can’t solve the problem? There’ll be a new release soon that can!

[hajile]

This is like when a vacuum doesn’t pick something up after a few tries. The user picks the thing up, looks at it, then puts it back down and tries again until they finally give up and move it to the trash.

If you can’t design a solution and instead waste days and who knows how much money in tokens instead of just turning on your brain for a few minutes, you are in the wrong profession.

[jfrbfbreudh]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48808828

Tell me how you would design a solution for this in a few minutes. Or a few days. Would you even recognize that this is NP-hard?