[egeozcan]

> If that’s right, then the behavior we’re seeing from Fable 5 isn’t really about what it believes is wrong; it’s about what it learned it could get away with.

I understand that "learning" is used for training here, but what does "believing" mean? System prompt? Some other inherent property of the LLMs that is hard to describe?

[StevenWaterman]

Believing and knowing are overlapping sets, imagine what you think of when someone says an AI "knows" something, it's the same mechanism (I'd describe it as something along the lines of "encoded abstractly in the weights")

[StevenWaterman]

I thought about this more and realised your question might have been "what's the difference between knowing and learning". IE, how can we say the model believes something without having been taught it.

I think you're right that they're basically the same thing. I'd argue they're very slightly different because what an AI model ends up knowing isn't perfectly predictable based on what they were taught (emergent intelligence), but the sentence you quoted is using believing and learning to mean the same thing, it's just trying to draw attention to the fact that the training process structurally enforces "cheat as much as possible without getting caught".

IE, the contrast in the original sentence wasn't "believe" vs "learn", it was "good" vs "permissible"