[helsinkiandrew]

> Why should I pay an order of magnitude more to use pi.dev?

The monthly plans are heavily subsidized by the API users - why should Anthropic subsidize your use of pi.dev?

[croes]

Where is the difference when I hit my 5 hour limit or weekly limit with Claude Code compared to PI or OpenCode?

[internet2000]

If you do it outside of Claude Code, you're not using their software, which is the intended outcome of the subsidy.

[croes]

Why?

What additional benefit do they get if I use their tools?

Every request goes to their LLM either way

[Degorath]

Well, they are wishing to lock you into their ecosystem, so that switching would be a high-friction decision. And then they can simply raise prices without you leaving.

[HDThoreaun]

There is no evidence that subscriptions lose money. It’s just as likely that subscriptions break even and the api has 10x margins

[wqaatwt]

I’m not sure why are people throwing the word “subsidizing” so much. Do we know that they are actually losing money on subscriptions?

Because if not that’s just normal market segmentation since enterprise users are willing to pay many times mores than private individuals.

Anthropic isn’t setting is’s price based on cost + fixed profit margin they are charging as much as each market is willing to bear..