[schnitzelstoat]

It gives them a massive advantage because they can cut the cost per token by a lot and eat Anthropic's market share.

In what universe is any company going to give that advantage away?

In any case if they take away a lot of market share it's basically the same in the end - most people will be using these optimisations.

[alightsoul]

Deepseek gave it away with R1. They did it again with V4 and DSpark. You don't use it because it's Chinese

[schnitzelstoat]

I'm not American so I don't really care if it's Chinese or not.

But at work I can only use the approved Enterprise Plans we have and we only have those with Anthropic and OpenAI.

[pea]

The shift may come when your blessed cloud platform provides competitive enterprise-ready hosting of the oss models

[alightsoul]

Companies and people worldwide just use whatever Americans use, because they read English but can't write it. Americans don't use Chinese models because they're Chinese.

[nijave]

And Chinese don't use American models because they're American. What's your point?

[kzrdude]

It's available from opencode (non-chinese hosting), additionally deepseek v4-flash is available with rate limits of course, for free, there.