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by NelsonMinar 23 days ago
I realize as a Californian we may not count as "American" in this particular zeitgeist stereotype. But FWIW we have a firework ban in Nevada County that is widely respected. There are very few violations and the law is actively enforced.

The difference is we are in a no-joke dangerous fire situation and everyone recognizes it. Most people know better than to set off incendiary explosives in a forest. Anyone who shot off illegal fireworks would immediately be shamed and censured by their neighbors. I guess it's a form of commune-ism.

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Yeah I think that’s the difference. On the east coast in July, the big safety risk with fireworks is generally to your own person.
I too live in Nevada County. While I largely agree with the claim that most people recognize and respect the safety implications, most years I still see (or hear) illegal fireworks. It’s clearly the odd individual doing it and not the majority of people, but the asymmetric risk they impose is a real bummer and I would love to see more/better enforcement of the restrictions on such individuals.
I grew up in southern CA, in a dry pine forest. I can assure you the children I knew traded and set off fireworks. We were all envious of the families who brought them back from Mexico — they had the best stuff.

I guess rules-followers assumed we were all doing as they did.

It’s all fun and games until you burn down a few thousand houses.
Not entirely sure, but this fire aligns with July 4, and has one death:

https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/wildfire/update-numerous-stru...

The biggest forest fire I know of in Southern California this year was caused by a boater using his government mandated safety flares.

If there was not a law regulating the use of these incendiary devices, Santa Rosa may not have burned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Rosa_Island_Fire

Your own link contradicts the assertion you’re making about the origin of the fire.
It's funny that CAs own "environmental" laws actually created the tinder box conditions in the forest. So their solution is more laws, of course.
The premise of this statement is wrong.
I'd argue the conclusion is wrong. The premise, that places like CA are currently such tinderboxes as a direct result of preventing natural burning and continuing to develop in areas that need to burn to stay healthy, is extremely well supported.
There was a similar cultural shift in the Portland OR area after fireworks caused the massive Eagle Creek fire 9 years ago. This is the first year that it seems like firework activity returned to the pre-fire levels.

250 baby! (/s)