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by pqtyw 27 days ago
Straw man... voters in parliamentary democracies generally are fully aware of whom the prime minister is going to be if the party wins.

Nobody really knows or cares who is going to be appointed to the commission since domestic issues always completely over shadow it.
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surgical_fire 26 days ago
The EU Council is composed of heads of government of each member state.

Are you really trying to imply that voters don't know who the fuck their heads of government are?

I mean, this is a rhetorical question. I don't really expect people who keep repeating misinformation about EU to be arguing in good faith.

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pqtyw 25 days ago
That's not the point. Voters generally can't vote for their preferred EU policies because they come bundled with internal policies which are obviously much more important for voters.

It's a bit like with replacing senators in the US with state governors (except actually worse since US is way more centralized and local and federal parties are much more aligned).

If voters actually voted for council representatives directly they could actually influence it in meaningful ways. Now e.g. in Germany a CDU voter won't suddenly switch to AFD or Greens just because they prefer their stance on Chat Control (or whatever else).

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surgical_fire 24 days ago
Honestly, this is a criticism I agree with. I really would prefer if the EU councilor for my country was either voted for (or even indirectly picked by the EU parliament members for my country). At least this would ensure some sort of alignment with EU policies I care about.

The fact that the head of state is on EU council sort of sucks, because when I vote on national elections people are looking at internal issues, and EU policy is more of an afterthought.

But that doesn't align with morons claiming that those are "unelected officials" or that the EU is somehow undemocratic.

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