[rorrr]

And they are right. Amazon is the next Walmart, but on a global scale.

Apple is just a high-end tablet maker, and they are getting hit very heavily by their competition. You can't ride forever on the fanboy wave and the brand wave. Fanboys will realize the competition is better, cooler, cheaper, and Apple brand is already toxic, it's not cool anymore.

[pstuart]

Are you serious? Apple defines the market.

[josteink]

On HN and in San Fransisco bay, I'm sure. The rest of the world is choosing Android, as seen in all sales-figures reported this year.

Needless to say, "the rest of the world" is much bigger than San Francisco. Apple has already peaked.

[tptacek]

YES DEFINITELY LETS HAVE THIS "DEBATE"

I just wanted to make a point about comparing P/E ratios. You know, from my Macbook.

[rorrr]

Not anymore. Andoid phones and tablets are way ahead of what Apple is offering, spec-wise. Android OS is even further ahead of iOS, which has been a stale grid of icons for what, almost a decade now.

I agree that Apple used to be on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. Now they are desperately trying to catch up with the competition, and fail every time. They still do have good sales, but that won't last.