[keepupnow]

It is wrong to describe these P2P products as server-less. In order to connect two peers over WAN it needs a form of coordination server. Since Rayfish appears to be a Claude coded wrapper over Iroh it should at-least give credit to use of Iroh's discovery and relay nodes.

[throwawaypath]

>Since Rayfish appears to be a Claude coded wrapper over Iroh it should at-least give credit to use of Iroh's discovery and relay nodes.

But that would take understanding network fundamentals, architecture, etc. Who needs any of that cruft any longer?

[dfish]

We do have understanding of networks. Claude doesn't come up with concepts by itself. It is not too good to do that yet. We run an HFT firm as a main enterprise, not an easy job. Requires a lot of network fundamentals understanding.

[keepupnow]

Lol thats right who needs this now we have gpt duh

[jarym]

Iroh can use multiple discovery methods, one of them is DNS. When a node comes online it publishes its addresses[1]. Another node can resolve from the node id those addresses and attempt a direct or hole-punched connection. If that works, relays aren't needed.

So agree not serverless, but also does not NEED a coordination server (unless you class DNS as a coordination server which is debatable).

[1] https://docs.iroh.computer/concepts/address-lookup#endpoint-...

[dfish]

Hello! dev here.

Yes, we did use claude, somewhat. We do give a lot of credit to iroh. Check the description of the repo.

As per the AI stuff, rayfish is a very old idea. I had a lot of sketches on how a p2p mesh VPN should look like. So it started off as "hey claude, can you do this?" and of course because I use it I have to do a lot of things manually myself.

But of course, without iroh this project would have not been possible!