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by vrganj 27 days ago
Call it what it is: Propaganda designed to stir anti-EU sentiment from groups that would benefit from being able to divide and conquer Europe.
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Even if it is foreign propaganda, the problems it exploits are real. Either you're solving the problems, or you're pushing people into the arms of said propaganda.
You see an article about how the EU tries to force a law after it got struck down by forcing it through with a legal trick and all you can think of is how any comment that critizes this is propaganda? Get a grip
EU doesn't tries to force a law. Some politicians does. EU is just a group of institutions.
It's strongly connected to the structure of the EU though, and the weak control that voters have over appointments to the commission, and every level of indirection is one at which the appointer can be influenced.

If EU institutions are used to push this sort of thing, we must treat that as what they are for. Systems do not get a pass because someone external is 'using them', but must be treated holistically.

EU institutions are the ones blocking it! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48797761
Its not "the EU" that tries to force the law, it's the Council.

You know what the Council consists of? The heads of national governments.

You know who they're having to force it through against? The EU parliament, an actual EU-level institution.

The more accurate read would thus be "national governments are trying to force this against the will of the EU".

The fact that you come away with the exact opposite read is a good demonstration of said propaganda's effectiveness.

It is an interesting take on it. I think there is a lack of understanding on how politics work among many.
Are you implying Denmark and other governments supporting it are pushing Chat Control as some sort of false flag operation to undermine the EU?
No that the critique of chat control is, I guess?

It is quite disturbing that more and more ofent critique of policy or a political system like the EU is framed as some convinient boogey man's propaganda.

Due to lack of transparency. The way the EU is structured makes it way easier for national governments to push policies under the radar and avoid any type of responsibility by deflecting any backlash to the EU (due to fundamental flaws in how it's functioning).
The EU already has in place, apparently, a Digital Services Act that basically stops access to some part of the web. That the slope may bring to enlarged web inaccessibility - and an unlivable eu ("What do you mean you have no internet, no web access?! We take it for granted").

That some actors may ride it, is not their stain, but the eu's.

The DSA doesn't stop access to any part of the web. This is precisely the misinformation I mentioned earlier.
Kindly explain why some platforms have issued notice that access would be restricted pending age verification. To my inquiries, that is owing to the DSA. Was I fed wrong information? Where, in which part?

And, about «precisely the misinformation I mentioned earlier»: you think this infomess was caused by foreign agents, instead of internal european lack of clarity?