[cassianoleal]

How about not? If you think your employee is lying too much about being sick, perhaps have a conversation? Establish trust? If it doesn't work out, require a doctor's note, and eventually fire them.

If the problem is one of trust, work on that. Forcing a sick person to leave the house and expose themselves and everyone else along their way to new pathogens just because you don't trust them is hardly a net positive for anyone.

[joe_mamba]

>require a doctor's note

That's ... exactly what I was saying. How long is your context window that you missed that?

If you're sick longer than X days, go see a doctor, for your own safety first, then for the note to your employer.

>Establish trust?

How? Trust goes both ways. If you trust someone and they don't reciprocate and abuse it for personal gain, then there's nothing left to establish, you just got robbed plain and simple, there's no trust there anymore. Trust is very hard to earn and very easily to lose. Mandating a note is simple "trust but verify" and removes any and all suspicions and accusations ensuring a level playing field for both parties.

>If the problem is one of trust, work on that.

Why should you be working on trust when you're the one being scammed? That's like telling the store who got robbed they should work on trust.

> Forcing a sick person to leave the house

No, you're right, they should just get to sit at home as long as they want with no medical oversight until it gets worse, or they end up at the ER, or they get bored of playing videogames, with much higher costs to both themselves and the health and labor system.

[cassianoleal]

> How long is your context window that you missed that?

256K tokens. I suspect yours is about 20 tokens, because you forgot the bit right before the one you quoted: "_If it doesn't work out_, require a doctor's note."

> If you trust someone and they don't reciprocate and abuse it for personal gain, then there's nothing left to establish

Correct. Terminate them in this case. Or have a process to give them a second chance and then terminate them. Whatever works for you.

> Why should you be working on trust when you're the one being scammed?

Probably don't. Don't hire scammers. Hired one by mistake? Fire them.

> No, you're right, they should just get to sit at home as long as they want with no medical oversight until it gets worse, or they end up at the ER

I get sick between 0 and 5 times a year. I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor for any of those, but I can say it has been many years. Some times I have really bad allergies to the point that I can barely get out of bed for maybe 2 or 3 days. I don't need to see the doctor, I just need to find the right anti-histaminics that work for me for whatever pollen is causing it.

Here you have a person who you supposedly trust with things a lot more valuable than whatever a day or a week's worth of missed work amount to, and you need to make them get out of the house, maybe queue up for hours in the hospital or whatever, because you don't trust them when they tell you they're sick? I'm sorry, but I know who I find sicker in this scenario and it's not the person missing work.