[blini-kot]

yeah, and somebody mounting i.e. some sort of audio/video equipment might make a mistake of putting flammable wire through firewall, while a software engineer in a different field (i.e. embedded or network firewall) might get lawful action in case of a design flaw

Licenses and reprimands are not bulletproof as those are often portrayed: take 737MAX for example, or Ford Pinto, or bridges, which fail every day as it seems

the only good investigation on the matter I've seen is this one: https://www.hillelwayne.com/talks/crossover-project/

and it states that yes, software engineers are in fact engineers -- and some investigation of the same order of magnitude is needed to disprove it

[fragmede]

The post-mortem on an incident is where it's at. Unfortunately most of those are proprietary and unseen by the rest of the world, but when a load bearing (are humans allowed to user that phrase still?) website like Google or Stripe went down, there's a level of rigor that isn't seen by the public to ask the five why's, or another framework that makes software look like real engineering. Problems are going to happen. Things after going to come up. The question is what you do after that, which determines if it's a serious thing or not.