[JumpCrisscross]

> That is what you should fear from AI. Not the data centres themselves, that we could all be fired and the rich lose nothing as a result

Sure. But what would have been better for the Fleet Street workers. The UK banning computerised printing? Or the union owning one?

If AI is going to be to jobs in general as computerised printing was to newspaper printing, just blocking it doesn't make sense. That's my argument.

[ben_w]

I think you may have misunderstood, I'm agreeing with you :)

> Sure. But what would have been better for the Fleet Street workers. The UK banning computerised printing? Or the union owning one?

Oh, definitely the latter.

The only way I see e.g. UBI working long-term is democratic* governments owning the means of production, and in the case of AI futures that means owning the compute, and the power supply for the compute.

Right now, the UK power supply is… privatised.

* small-d, not The Dems, I'm not an American

[piloto_ciego]

This is totally the "near term" solution.

Like, worker ownership of the means of production and the assets in general is idea. But I'm speaking as an Alaskan who is quite fond of the PFD and think it doesn't go far enough.