[matthewdgreen]

I didn't understand what these satellites were really like until I visited Zion National Park two weeks ago. Zion is an International Dark Sky park, and so I was really looking forward to seeing the stars. Instead we sat outside and watched dozens and dozens of fast-moving stars zip around on all sorts of trajectories. I'm not saying it ruined the experience (I'm not an astronomer, and it was kind of fun.) But it really brought home how fundamentally we've changed the sky. I also hope we're able to lay enough fiber in developing countries that this many satellites don't need to stay up there forever.

[qntmfred]

for reference https://x.com/Jeremyrand101/status/1981564984154005876

I frequently hang out in my driveway in the early evenings shooting basketball and listening to podcasts. I'll see easily several dozen satellites over the course of the hour or two that I typically stay out there. and I don't even live out in the country or anything. I think mostly people are just not aware (yet?) of how rapidly the number of satellites have grown in the last couple years.

[verdverm]

What time were you there? My understanding is that around dawn/dusk, the angles cause reflection, but for most of the time they are not visible.

Also, what about planes? Those also cause similar light streaks. Another understanding I currently hold is that there is already a method for removing these artifacts

[reaperducer]

Also, what about planes? Those also cause similar light streaks.

Watch a time-lapse animation of aircraft movement. They follow fairly precise paths, and the number of them diminishes significantly at night.

In places like the ones listed above, they are uncommon at night. I've been to both. You might see one once an hour, if that.

[phainopepla2]

I had the same experience visit Mojave National Preserve. It was very distracting while trying to stargaze. I had to stay up late to see the night sky I remember

[pfisch]

How can anyone see what is happening in Ukraine and not realize the future is not just 1 starlink, but also a Chinese one and a Europe at a minimum. Probably many other countries will make sure to have at least a regional one as well though.

[JumpCrisscross]

I could absolutely see Europe Greenpeace-nuking its way out of having a LEO constellation while everyone else builds them.