[skotobaza]

The article was alright (with a weird tangent about gingers at the beginning), but then quickly devolved into personal attacks towards Odin's developer and Casey Muratori. Why? Just because they both wrote something on Twitter?

And then I read this:

> Steering a language and its context will naturally reflect the author's world view

> There are two ways one can "figure out a person" who rarely states their beliefs explicitly, specifically a public figure:

> 2. See who they follow on Twitter

What do someone's beliefs have to do with the development of a programming language? Or with its appearance on Wikipedia? Is this a normal world view?

[vor_]

If you read the whole article, you'll understand the context and how its relates to Wikipedia. The fact GingerBill accuses Wikipedia of having a political bias against Odin when (spoilers) it was actually a "constitutional conservative" who triggered the deletion is amusing.

[skotobaza]

I don't see anyone (especially GingerBill) stating that article about Odin was deleted because of "political bias". The only thing I see is a general statement about Wikipedia being an "ideological playground". But I don't see that anyone thinks that people who removed the article were of the opposite views. The author makes the connection because of some Twitter accounts that GingerBill follows (and because of what he allegedly said in some videos), but I don't think it's a good proof, especially by the author's own standards.

[atiedebee]

Right before the statement in Wikipedia being an ideological playground:

> Our best hypothesis is quite simple: some of the mods just don't like Odin as a language and don't want it on Wikipedia as any form of "advertisement".

It doesn't directly say "political bias", but it certainly is implied (not as in national politics, more like ideological)

[arijun]

> the mods just don't like Odin as a language

Seems to be pretty explicit that they don't like the language, not the creator or his political views. I don't like Java, the few times I was forced to use it I hated it, but I don't even know who the creators are.

Like someone else said, for someone to go through such lengths to claim many of their points, it's a pretty tenuous connection to hang half your article on.

[dismalaf]

I've engaged with GingerBill enough on X and the Discord server and I have no idea what his political stances are; he literally never talks politics in public (he's also English and not American). So if he says there's a political bias he's definitely not talking about politics in the general sense, but the specific context of programming languages.

[de_nied]

Well we now know the author's true intentions. It was never about any real criticism, and simply an attack on a person they politically dislike.

[torginus]

Weird how things tends to devolve into culture war stuff. I don't really know anything about the article's author, but he claims he advocates for low-level programming as well, so in theory they should be on the same side.

Also this is the only post on the blog, with no further clues as to who the author is. So this post is some sort of hitnrun attack as well?

Does this guy have beef with Bill making Odin?