[youre-wrong3]

On one side you have people starving because they are forced to grow food which is effectively stolen and sold to enrich the party. People killed fr starvation, or by the party if you didn’t contribute enough, ate some, stole some. So the deaths are the direct result of the CCP.

Vs a study which suggests 183-300k where you take the high end and seem to read about the vast range of causes of which a lot are not very much attributable to poverty.

[vrganj]

And on the other side you have people dying because they are denied food, shelter and healthcare as a policy choice.

It's not that they can't be taken care of. It's just that it'd cost money and eat profit margins.

It's an active political and ideological choice to let them die, same in both cases. Just happens to be an ideology you agree with and feel a need to defend.

The 180k are currently poor people, the 300k people poor over the past 10 years (which includes the 180). Didn't take the larger number, took the one that more accurately applied.

[youre-wrong3]

Are you still talking about China? Where they are denied food, shelter, healthcare? Or do you accept the CCPs word over the word of the people who show videos of what reality is like in China?

[vrganj]

I don't need to accept anyone's word, I've traveled both the US and China extensively.

I'm noticing you're trying really hard to deflect though.

[youre-wrong3]

I can tell you haven’t. I lived in China for 8 years.