[pixdamix]

> Freedom to say (almost) anything, publicly, including criticism of the elite and powerful.

Most European nations strongly protect free speech, allowing open public critique and satire of politicians, the wealthy, and the powerful.

> Freedom to do, to create a business with far fewer roadblocks than in, say, Europe.

Several European countries actually lead global easy business rankings, some offering fully digital, single-day company registration, very little bureaucracy (not mine, sadly)

> Freedom to go, to travel anywhere in a really large country, with no borders or restrictions.

The schengen zone grants passport-free travel across 29 nations, spanning thousands of miles without a single border checkpoint.

[artisinal]

> The schengen zone grants passport-free travel across 29 nations, spanning thousands of miles without a single border checkpoint.

Not anymore. I got stopped between The Netherlands and Germany, between France and Spain, Denmark and Sweden. Germany has border checkpoints with most of its bordering countries.

That is unheard of in the USA. You can travel thousands of kilometers without getting stopped by authorities for checking your passport or identity card.

[dgellow]

> Not anymore. I got stopped between The Netherlands and Germany, between France and Spain, Denmark and Sweden. Germany has border checkpoints with most of its bordering countries.

Schengen allows to have temporary border controls, you can see the, here: https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/schengen/schengen...

I also was really surprised to get controlled between Germany and Denmark. But it’s not the same as the old border checkpoints. Though I wish that didn’t exist

[lovich]

Eh, we kinda can’t crow about that with ICE now, especially since it’s not just at known checkpoints where they are demanding papers.

Free speech is also on the outs since we’re having people getting jailed for not carrying the flame appropriately with regards to the late Mr Kirk.

Oh, and people getting prosecuted for 8647 as the powers at be decided to interpret that as a death threat instead of call to impeach.

[artisinal]

The numbers aren’t very clear but from what I can read online I see that the border checks in Germany resulted in a couple thousand deportations. Hundred of thousands of people checked.

Not comparing that to ICE as deportations in the EU are typically peaceful.

[lovich]

If you can be compelled to produce your papers or get arrested by ICE then everyone will have to have their papers on them. ICE and leaders in this admin are also stating that they are aiming for millions of deportations.