[jrflo]

You forgot the first goalpost: the Turing test.

[AnotherGoodName]

Even that line's very debatable though. Passing always under every circumstance? No.

Passing specific tests to the point that the internet is now full of "Is that content AI generated or not" debates? Yes

[jrflo]

I think this is a good example of the moving goalposts. The Turing test is not "AI is indistinguishable from human writing 100% of the time", it's whether it is possible at all for a system can be designed where a person can be fooled into thinking they're talking to a human when they're actually talking to a computer in a turn-based text exchange. It is a "there exits..." problem rather than a "for all..." problem.

[suddenlybananas]

If it's a there exists problem, then it was solved by ELIZA in the 60s.

[AnotherGoodName]

I think your post is a very good example of goal post moving.

We currently have debates around whether content online is human or ai generated and instead of acknowledging the milesetone we have a post essentially claiming "the turing test was passed long ago, it's worthless".

[suddenlybananas]

How am I moving the goal post by pointing out that, by their definition, the goal "was scored" in the 1960s.

[sambapa]

That's not a Turing test

[jrflo]

It is the original Turing test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Versions

[sambapa]

That's what I am talking about...?

[inigyou]

ELIZA passed the casual Turing test