[bluefirebrand]

Understandably, the frustration is also around "what happens then?"

Everyone is wondering about what happens if (when?) it finally comes true

We really have to figure out what comes next for your average person. I think the reason no one wants to talk about this is because the answers aren't great. The average person not going to be living a great life in all likelihood, once we have no access to capital anymore

[overgard]

Yup, that's the weird thing about the booster argument. "We finally achieved it, we're no longer important or the dominant species and Sam Altman and Dario Amodei run what's left of the world from their bunker!" Yay?

[matheusmoreira]

Either we achieve a post scarcity society, or we become a permanent underclass if not soylent. Those are the only outcomes I believe are possible.

[OtomotO]

If we don't have access to capital, we will abolish capital altogether.

This still backfire to the oligarchs

[danelski]

Are you sure the capital-enabled won't abolish us for trying to do so?

[OtomotO]

Capital loses all it's value the moment it's all in the hands of a few.

If people cannot even get a piece of the cake anymore, the cake doesn't hold any power over them.

So if the rich and powerful just hoard the money, they will lose.

If they hoard weapons: well, if they need people to operate the weapons (or serve them), they will still fall.

The thing is: They look invincible. They are not though. They are human, they bleed, they fear, they die just like the rest of us.

[inigyou]

That's true for money, but there are real capital resources whose ownership matters extremely. E.g. every part of food production.

[OtomotO]

People will not just lay down and wait for death's sweet embrace though.

There is a whole lot of people involved in food production and the owners can't own it without people willing to let them own it.

As soon as money is out of the equation many powerful lose their power.

[inigyou]

The owners in any society almost always have the guns on their side, and they can outgun anyone else. That's what makes them the owners. They can outgun any farmer, because the farmer spends all their time farming but the owner's goons spend all their time training in violence.

[bluefirebrand]

They will certainly try, but they don't have the capability yet

It's probably a really bad idea to keep building them autonomous killing machines though

[danelski]

I wouldn't be surprised if multiple nation-states already had them without calling them such because 'Look, someone pushed a button 3 hours ago before it engaged'. Once the private capital gets their hands on them, we immediately transition to cyberpunk no matter what else happens in the world.

[malnourish]

Hyper proliferation of drones seems to end in a state of mutually assured destruction, from my armchair.

[inigyou]

The average person will not have any life in all likelihood. That is the end goal of capitalism. However, shortly after everyone dies, the remaining survivors - the likes of Musk, Thiel etc - will find themselves roughly equal and needing to establish a new hierarchy.