[CamperBob2]

Launch an unprovoked attack, do it under cover of negotiation, and then attack diplomatic envoys.

Belligerence, perfidy, and I don't even know the term for that last part, it's so unheard-of. We have violated rules of warfare that were already old thousands of years ago.

At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?

[LikelyLiar]

> At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?

I have seen this question online numerous times, but I fail to understand why they expect shame from the shameless, and truth from liars, and respect of law from people who maximize loophole usage.

[ASalazarMX]

I'd wonder instead if anyone still thinks of USA as the good guys of the world. In these days where information (and disinformation) happens fast, propaganda can only cover reality up to a point.

[cassianoleal]

> At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?

There had already been so many chances in the last couple centuries. I'm not holding my breath.

[sbayg]

When we killed Kennedy. That was the point we should have admitted being the bad gays.