[cogman10]

> but this is pretty fucked up IMO

Pretty much every medication can have bad interactions. There is always a "risk/reward" analysis.

But also, the vaccines linked to those kids deaths weren't the mRNA vaccines, it was the J&J vaccine which got pulled as a result.

[trimethylpurine]

I think the point being made here is that the risk decision should be up to the recipient of the treatment.

[cogman10]

It always is. Nobody was forced to take the vaccine and when these first rolled out there was a brochure of potential side effects.

[trimethylpurine]

For many, they could choose to lose their jobs and let their families go hungry, tantamount to being forced.

[cogman10]

The only people that really qualify for this is military service people. Everyone else could take weekly covid tests. The rule to require vaccines more generally was pretty quickly struck down.

So you are right. I shouldn't have said "nobody". But also, it's not exactly everyone.

[trimethylpurine]

I did write "many."

And for clarity sake, it's way more people than just the military. Many cities and counties had mandates, including NYC. Everyone in nearly the entire health industry across the country. Many restaurant workers. A bunch of banks and many, many other companies in various industries had mandates just because their leadership was political or used it as a way to reduce labor without penalty. A lot of people were forced.

I don't think it's fair to try to minimize that. It's a major point of ongoing political contention and its among the many reasons why many people stopped voting left (including me).