[frognumber]

They're not "attacks." Anthropic calling them "attacks" doesn't make them attacks. Companies are collecting transcripts of conversations with Anthropic, and giving users a discount to share them.

As many have pointed out, they're collecting data in ways much less aggressive than Anthropic itself about what Anthropic does.

Anthropic doesn't like it, but I don't see this as "Chinese companies stealing IP," any more than if Google tried to ban competitors from seeing how Google Docs or an Android phone behaves, or Ford trying to ban anyone from Toyota from seeing what their car looks like.

Please stop calling them "attacks." It's distillation training. It's looking at what Anthropic does -- as a block box -- and trying to duplicate or beat it. It's how progress happens.

[Gareth321]

Stealing IP is an attack. You might feel that Anthropic should just give away hundreds of billions in IP and capex, but that's not the way the world works, and I don't agree with you. They're taking enormous risk to build these models. They should be fairly compensated.

[frognumber]

What IP is being stolen?

IP is the code and possibly the weights.

No one is stealing IP.

And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue the AI industry isn't being fairly compensated.

To go further: most people in the world wouldn't feel bad at all if we found a way to slow what's likely the biggest socio-polical-economic change in human history down a bit.