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> Vaccines reduce the chance of them spreading it [..]

"Citation needed"...

Covid vaccination did not reliably or durably block SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially after Omicron and as immunity waned.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39971395/

  The overall VE [Vaccine Effectiveness] of the complete primary series against infection with any SARS-CoV-2 variant was 70.7%. VE was lower for Omicron, at 26.1%, than for pre-Omicron strains, at 77.0%. Over time, VE against infection by any variant decreased from 68.9% to 38.9% after 6 months.

[defrost]

Leaving aside the linked study is looking at vaccine effectiveness WRT infection rather than transmission, ...

Low effectiveness still agrees with the point made above about reducing chances of spread and transmission.

A reduction is still a reduction, even if is not a 100% total and full stop.

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> A reduction is still a reduction, even if is not a 100% total and full stop

The advice I was given from our family doctor was that having had an utterly mild case of (actual) Covid, as I had (two separate times!), during the pandemic, was significantly better in protecting against both future infection - and subsequent transmission - than any protection I could have gained by vaccination.

YMMV. I suspect this is down to those who have had mild Covid pre-vaccination and those who have not.

Some of us didn't even know we had had Covid until afterwards, others think the vaccine saved them from an untimely death/hospitalisation.

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If you’ve had Covid twice then you’ll have had the antibodies in your system, however there were several strains and getting boosters to maximise resistance was important.

Remember that you caught Covid twice, because your body’s immune system was still not strong enough to make you asymptomatic the second time. You likely caught Covid several times but several of those times you were asymptomatic.

It’s incorrect to say that catching the virus gives you “better” protection than a vaccine. The vaccine teaches your immune system how to react to the virus without the damage and long-term effects caused by actually having the virus. This makes future infections much less severe and you are less likely to spread the virus to others when you catch it.

Worth restating because of all the misinformation out there: a vaccine will not prevent you from catching a virus, it cannot do that. It trains your immune system to fight the virus so that when you catch it your immune system can fight it immediately and symptoms are much less severe (ideally asymptomatic, but that is not guaranteed), so that you have less chance of passing it on.

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> It’s incorrect to say that catching the virus gives you “better” protection than a vaccine.

An expert in the field would appear to disagree:

Dr F: "the best vaccination is to get infected"

https://www.c-span.org/clip/washington-journal/user-clip-pre...

(00:50)

> however there were several strains and getting boosters to maximise resistance was important

Our family doctor said the opposite: "your antibody count is so high [from recent infection] there is no point you having a vaccine/booster".

<shrug> I listened to Dr F (2004) and to our family doctor. YMMV.

[teamonkey]

That’s what Dr Fauci said for seasonal flu in 2004.

Yes you will have antibodies from being exposed to one strain of flu. You won’t for the next strain.

Catching COVID carried a far greater risk because although symptoms can be mild in many cases it can kill vulnerable people and it spreads incredibly quickly. At the peak of the pandemic, hospitals were being overrun by people sick with the virus, which affected everyone’s access to care. Vaccines helped prevent the spread of new strains to vulnerable people and reduced pressure on the hospitals.