[LtWorf]

At this point i think the china mass surveillance was propaganda while the USA one is for real.

[ianm218]

Could you flesh this out more? The Chinese surveillance state is pretty well documented by academics [1] I'd be curious to see what makes you think that is fake news or whatever.

[1]. https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/10/1060982/china-pa...