[johncoltrane]

hjkl are more of a cult/status thing anyway because they are not _that_ touch-typing-friendly to begin with, and they suck just as much as the cursor keys for moving the cursor around.

Insisting so much on hjkl is silly. No one is using an ADM-3A in 2026, so the official documentation should let users use the more intuitive cursor keys and downgrade hjkl to what they have always been since vi: __ham-fisted alternatives to the cursor keys__.

[flexagoon]

How are they "not that touch-typing-friendly" when they're literally the keys that are always under your fingers when touch typing?

[johncoltrane]

jkl; are (on QWERTY keyboards). hjkl are not.

[flexagoon]

Idk, I get what you mean but I'd personally rather not use my pinky finger for navigation, sounds really uncomfortable.

[johncoltrane]

hjkl AND the cursor keys equally suck for moving the cursor because they only move by one line or by one character.

jjjllllljjh is just as bad as <Down><Down><Down><Right><Right><Right><Right><Right><Down><Down><Left>. There are much better ways to move around and touch-typists and non-touch-typists would be better off learning them instead of obsessing over hjkl: :help motion.txt.

[magackame]

Bro be using two mice with a screen keyboard.