[defrost]

> the ugly environmental and human rights abuses around the lithium sourcing.

Be specific, please, and for completeness compare to the impacts of fossil fuel extraction and production for ICE vehicles.

Lithium supply chains: Environmental impacts and trade-offs analysis - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235248472...

  Most world lithium production is attributed to spodumene mining in Australia, Brazil, Zimbabwe, and Canada, and to brine operations in Chile, China, and Argentina

[zuzululu]

you've refused to answer a simple question twice so for the third time : what car company is using forced labor as you are claiming?

[defrost]

Can you please link to these prior two occasions you've asked me this question?

I have no recollection of ever having addressed you or being addressed by you before this interaction. (EDIT: we have had zero intersection in HN comments for at least 16 days.)

I suspect you've confused a user name.

Still, to address your question, for the very first time, there are reports of car companies in China, Japan and elsewhere being linked to third party forced labour practices - Toyota, for one example, made a comprehensive statement in 2021 to explain how they were acting to mitigate (ie minimise, reduce, limit) their existing exposure to Forced Labor of Migrant Workers and the Modern Slavery Acts. That 13 page statement is essentially a confession that Yes, they did rely on parts in the supply chain with a forced labour element and Yes, we will minimise this but it will likely be hard to entirely eliminate this.

If you like I can link to this statement, should you be unable to unable to find it yourself.

Would you now be kind enough to expand on your statement about the lithium supply chain and sensibly compare it to the environmental damages of the fossil fuel industry?