[dabbz]

I mean if you want to spend $200, and get a guaranteed amount of tokens in return you should be using the API.

I agree there should be more transparency what 20x gets you that 5x doesn't.

Though I also imagine it's a tough problem when you could be using Dispatch, Cowork, design, chat, code, etc. All of which use different contexts, models, and resources. I'd argue they actually need to either simplify their offerings, or charge more for upsells (charge for cloud-based agents, upcharge for design outcomes, etc).

[janalsncm]

If products use different amounts of tokens, that’s fine. That’s fundamental to the products. But that’s the numerator, which they aren’t telling you.

I’m also saying the denominator isn’t clear. One day it might be a million. Tomorrow 2 million. The next day 800k. Who knows.

[dabbz]

I agree that would improve transparency but it'd also lock us and Anthropic into a situation where changing that would require new plans, prices, notifications, legal, etc. I think the fact that we don't see tokens shows just how subsidized the plan is. Which is mostly the point. They want us getting used to just using the product, not tracking tokens (for whatever behavior that builds later on).