[Geee]

It seems like they use obscure language (non-optimal, excess) on purpose to try to somehow connect global warming into the obvious fact that a lot of people die in cold temperatures if they don't have a warm shelter, and sometimes people die in hot temperatures if they don't drink enough. And the article is full of global warming fear mongering, although they found that temp-related mortality has decreased from 2000 to 2019.

[Windchaser]

> It seems like they use obscure language (non-optimal, excess) on purpose to try to ...

Huh. No, in the scientific literature, this isn't obscure language. This is normal language there.

This... kinda comes across like going to France and objecting that everyone's speaking French.

[Bjartr]

What makes that obscure language for an academic paper?

Why is using obscure language a tactic for linking an idea to global warming?

What claims do you feel are fear mongering?

[Geee]

Well, to me it reads as "climate change causes people to die", although the opposite is true and their own results show that. It's obvious because people die overwhelmingly from cold compared to heat.

[atoav]

No it is about ambient temperature. Of course climate change would factor into ambient temperature since it is a change of the bell curve that represents the usual day-by-day weather.

It raises the average temperature and makes hot extremes more frequent and intense, while cold extremes generally become less frequent, but they may also move to different places, since ocean currents change. Additionally it also changes precipitation and other weather extremes: a warmer atmosphere can contain more water vapour, contributing to more intense heavy rainfalls or snow for example. However, this does not necessarily mean that day-to-day temperature variability increases everywhere; changes in temperature variability depend on the region and season.

Put simply, extreme weather can mean humidity, perception and wind mix. How these three mix will decide whether the weather is survivable or not. I grew up in the alps and the number of people who have died on mountains because they are unaware of how wind mixed into their cold weather survivability even with decent gear is way too high. See also: https://www.noaa.gov/jetstream/synoptic/wind-chill

That means this isn't nearly as simple as saying: (1) climate change means it is getting hotter on average, (2) that study says more people die of cold exposure, ergo (3) this means less people will die.

The main problem woth this chain of thought is that point 1 isn't adequately describing what happens. If you have read any IPCC report know that the number of extreme weather events is increasing. I live in Europe and this year I experienced both the coldest winter and the hottest summer in my lifetime.

[fluffybucktsnek]

You know climate change isn't just places getting hotter, right?

[Geee]

The article is about mortality related to ambient temperatures. People have always died from ambient temperatures, that's why we have clothes and homes.