[LeifCarrotson]

Auto start/stop isn't off for enough time for the oil to drain from the galleries and especially not out of the bearing journals.

It's the first few seconds after an engine has been off for hours (or worse, for potentially years) that are the problem.

[toxik]

I thought it pretty well established that auto on/off is bad for the engine, as is intermittently turning off some cylinders as some do. Is that wrong?

[Toutouxc]

I don’t think it’s pretty well established, there are cars that will happily stop and start the engine multiple times per minute, e.g. Toyota hybrids with their “HSD” drivetrain. It just requires some engineering.

[trhway]

I don’t think Toyota engine does traction from low rpm. Electric motor does it, and moments later already well spinning engine gets the load.

Hearing regular start-stop on intersection gives me sorry feeling for the engine.

[kube-system]

Hybrids generally command the ICE to run when under higher loads or cold conditions, but they do get a bit of a break under low load conditions when they’re warmed up.

But they also start and stop way more than a gasoline-only car with stop-start. Because they stop and start repeatedly while driving too. Series hybrids even more so.

[trhway]

>But they also start and stop way more than a gasoline-only car with stop-start.

they do it very differently. My Prius never does that coughing sound that the start-stop engines frequently do. The powerful electric motor in Prius spins the engine to at least 1000rpm before fuel is injected. That way it is much easy on the engine and much more fuel efficient too.

[vel0city]

It sounds like you're talking more about systems that supposedly disengage some cylinders while the car is cruising. Some engines with that kind of technology have been known to damage cylinders for multitude of reasons.

That's very different from the start/stop feature they're talking about. That's about fully stopping the engine when you come to a complete stop like at a red light and then automatically starting again when you get off the brake.

[gomoboo]

“While aggressive start cycles (>20 cycles per day) could lead to premature failure in the starter system of light- to medium-duty commercial fleet vehicles, modern fuel injection and engine control systems have eliminated any issues associated with drivers of typical light-duty vehicles turning the engine off while stationary for short periods and restarting the vehicles for <10 start events per day.” from https://publications.anl.gov/anlpubs/2015/05/115925.pdf

This paper seems to say that generally they aren’t a problem. I’ve only seen unsubstantiated claims that they are one.

[bob1029]

This paper reads like a high school science fair project with zero treatment for the concern originally presented (oil system pressure transients).