[hombre_fatal]

It's not relevant. If the word Costco is too distracting to interact with my point, then replace it with any place you might want to go in a day.

The lack of infrastructure is what makes the routine unpleasant, not failing to carry a small bag of bagels home. Not even the weather since riding a bike casually creates a breeze.

[SoftTalker]

My point was that if you want to bike to get things you need, you have to go to places that are on more local scale.

A place like Costco can only exist with the support of a large amount of car infrastructure. So if you want to go there that's what you have to deal with.

[hombre_fatal]

Costco happens to have a couple products I want that I used to bring back by bike until I decided it wasn't worth it unless I was already walking back from the cafe near it.

Swap Costco out with any place I might want to go, and my point doesn't change because whether I can carry a bag of six bagels or eat a pizza in their food court isn't up for debate.

You got one-shot by a triviality. The argument is not whether Costco should be the one building built in more density acoss our cities but whether our cities are hospitable to walking/biking.

Costco just happens to be an example of a business I used to like to bike to near me, but it's adjacent to many other businesses I could have mentioned instead like restaurants, a cafe, and my friend's apartment, not the sole reason the streets exist around it.

[iamnothere]

People go to Costco because they want to make fewer trips in general. They load up their giant SUVs with the kids and the dogs, then with all their groceries and clothing and pool floats and other merchandise, and they bring it back to their giant house that has room for storing all this extra crap.

In my experience, people who live this way don’t have a problem with any of it.

You can’t just “undo” one piece of this without undoing everything else about our society. And that’s just not likely to happen in a democracy, as annoying as that may be.