[gruez]

>Tech looks high compared to everyone else, but it is more that everyone else's wages got suppressed.

Where do you draw the line? Maybe everyone should be earning $10M/year like AI researchers, and anything to the contrary means it's "suppressed"?

[__turbobrew__]

> Where do you draw the line

You can own a house and support a family of 5 on a single income and retire at 65.

Where I live that is only really possible for SWE, lawyers, doctors, and execs.

[bpt3]

You're welcome to move to one of the many, many places in the US where it's still possible.

[__turbobrew__]

I live in Canada, so no Im not.

[jgon]

That's actually a really great suggestion. It would be great if you could throw together a list of these many, many places and post it here, so we could think about what sort of moves we could make. Thanks in advance!

[bpt3]

Large portions of the rust belt, midwest, and deep south for starters.

There are many, many lists of the most affordable cities in the US. I see Buffalo, Dayton, and Wichita on them regularly as specific examples.

[jgon]

Sweet thanks, I guess I never really thought about moving to the Rust Belt and then taking part in its thriving economy to get the sort of job that would allow me to support a family of 5 and own a house on a single income. I would guess at this point you'd probably try and say something about remote work and arbitraging high west coast tech salaries against low cost-of-living, but really that just gets us back to the other poster's point about this stuff not being obtainable anymore. Certainly, to take just a quick example, not in one of the cities you listed, Wichita, with a median individual income (as specified by the other poster) of between $49k and $35k for men and women, and a median house sale price of $243k (up 4.3% over the last year!), giving you an affordability ratio of roughly 5-7x. Chapman university labels that sort of ratio as "Severly Unaffordable".

Whoops! Guess it isn't quite as easy as your smug comment made it out to be...

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/wichita-ks -> link for median single income data in Wichita

https://www.redfin.com/city/19878/KS/Wichita/housing-market -> link for median house sale price

https://www.chapman.edu/communication/_files/Demographia-Int... -> Link to Chapman study, income affordability ratio labeling is on page 6 of the study.

[bpt3]

Buy a house below the median cost if you want to live that specific lifestyle.

And don't rely on trashy websites for your snarky, invalid arguments: https://www.bls.gov/regions/mountain-plains/summary/blssumma...

[Chinjut]

Fine by me. Let's give it a shot.

[sublinear]

I'm pretty sure they meant ~100k-200k in a housing market away from the coasts... oh wait that's already true!