[theultdev]

that's what I voted for and I'm happy about it. same for every single person in my circle.

you may not understand the other side because of biases but if you just say "oh 50% must be crazy / be stupid" then noone can have an honest debate. but I guess gone are those days.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

Which part attracts you the most? The corruption, the self-dealing, the disrespect for the Constitution and the rule of law, or the racism?

[theultdev]

prime example of why there can't be discourse happening right here ^

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

If you're willing to overlook the corruption, the self dealing, the disrespect for the Constitution and rule of law, and the racism, then I agree. There is no useful discourse to be had with you.

[bytehowl]

Answer the question.

[ceejayoz]

Ah, the irony.

[theultdev]

how is it irony? the guy asked loaded "questions" basically saying everything is racist and evil. not really good faith is it?

nothing about policy or any specific thing you could have a civil conversation about.

they didn't even say what perceived racist, corrupt, etc. delusional take they're talking about.

unless I'm on a liberal newsletter how would I know the conspiracies they're talking about?

to answer in one word GP's main question "Which part attracts you the most?"

Sanity.

[taneq]

Thankyou for responding with your view, and I'm sorry that you got downvoted for it. I don't agree that "[people] should be able to do literally anything they want and Buyer Beware is a good way to structure society and commerce" because I feel that a degree of safety from bad actors is part of the social contract in a healthy society, and that the strong and capable have a duty to protect and support those less able. I understand, however, that not everyone feels that way and that I'm not entitled to tell them what to think. That's why we vote on stuff, and it mostly works.

I still think that a large percentage of MAGA red hat voters (who don't necessarily represent all GOP voters) have bought into the populist rhetoric rather than actively understanding and supporting the actual policy but I'm sure there are plenty of people like you out there who are actively choosing this.