| Well it was also problematic when the search engines started quoting the websites in such a way to disincentivize people from visiting the actual website. > At least within the US, I think there are nuances around fair use and contract law. The concept of "fair use" as it exists in the US-law system is completely dysfunctional (see e.g. nearly every educational music channel on YouTube), so utterly biased to favour large corporations, that there's very little room for whatever "nuances" you believe exist. > Similar to old paintings digitized and hosted on some museum website. It's 300 years old, right? It should be public domain, yet the people who digitized it or provided a service to give you access have some say in how their reproduction can be used. Yes 300 year old paintings are public domain. Indeed there are certain rules for the people/institutions who digitize them. It's not "they have some say", there's actually nothing mysterious about it and it is not similar to Anthropic's copyright heist at all because nearly all of the books they copied were not more than 100 years old. > there are laws that can govern how you are allowed to use a service if that service has laid out acceptable usage well where I live, there are laws about what a "service" can claim to "lay out as acceptable usage" instead of the other way around ... > I also admit that a lot of the usage was probably quite legal Let's disagree on that. I think it wasn't a lot and the vast majority was not legal. How do you think the LLMs "learned" to speak all these non-English languages? Unless your point is that it's probably quite legal to treat foreign IP like that. Which it may very well be in the US, especially if the corporation is large enough, but imvho it's still wrong. > With any luck, artforms and skills impacted by technology will adapt and continue to be valuable instead of complete displacement or the dilution of opportunity. And with any bad luck, these AI corporations will hold frontier models hostage for the rest of time. I honestly don't want to put that up to "luck". |