[brookst]

I miss the days when tech people were copyright skeptics. Remember when everyone was upset with Disney for our perpetual copyright regime and the destruction of public domain?

Now many tech people are copyright maximalists and 100% converted to the church of Disney. It’s depressing.

[tripzilch]

I don't think that's right. The problem is that Anthropic is hoarding it and that's hypocritical. If copyright doesn't count for Anthropic, they should publish Claude. If they wanna hide Claude behind copyrights and/or TOS, they don't get to screw with other people's copyrights and TOS and then profit from it.

To call that opinion "copyright maximalist 100% converted to the church of Disney" is, at the very least, hyperbole.

[brookst]

“Anthropic is hypocritical and hoarding data” is 100% compatible with “copyright has gotten out of control and we need less of it”

But pearl clutching over the poor corporations who have their works trained on is much less compatible with a copyright-skeptical view.

And I stand by copyright-maximalism as a rising trend in tech circles. It’s mostly anti-ai, but strange bedfellows and all that.

[ethbr1]

Imho, you're getting wrapped up around the wrong perspective axis.

Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, etc. know they illegally obtained all the material they initially trained on.

So claiming any kind of right against anyone else training on their models is asinine.

[justcool393]

its not copyright maximalism. people just see the obvious hypocrisy. a lot of people are also fine with some copyright